Success Discussion – Case Study

  • The following is an impromptu discussion (chat) about success I had with an innocent bystander. As you can see in the reading we only touched the surface of the discussion and there were a few questions raised.  The names have been changed to protect the innocent so don’t go trying to find Mike!

    Success Discussion – Case Study

    Admin

    Hey Mike, how are you today? You are a few years my senior, let me ask you. How do you define success and have you had any in life? You can take your time to answer or if you don’t wish to discuss you can just blow it off, up to you, thanks! ~y

  • Mike

    Hi Yosef I am not blowing you off if you want to discuss I will

    Admin

    Ok

    Mike

    I don’t define success by how much money you have

    Admin

  • Right. I didnt mention $$$.

    Mike

  • I think success is partly a state of mind you have to believe that you are successful to be

    I have had a number of jobs and feel I was successful at most of them

    Having the people in your office respect you for the job you do and the people you work with happy with what you are doing for them

    Admin

  • So you are linking success to a job you do and the comrade participation you are involved with.

    Right?

    Mike

    Partly but there is also success in personal life

    Happy home getting along with all the relatives

    And helping people who need help

    You have to give back what you are given

    Admin

  • more comrade participation, right?

    I actually had to look of the dictionary definition of success for this discussion!

  • Mike

    Yes you can never be an success without others

    Admin

    I believe, according to the definition of success, that the reason many MISPLACE it’s meaning, is because there is no way to actually NOT be successful. And that everyone succeeds at what they aim for, whether they agree with the outcome at the time they receive it or not. On the other hand what I just described above might be total bull!

  • Mike

    This is true it’s sort of like everyone wins and that is total bull

    Admin

  • Well it goes on to say that the reason someone has not received what they view as success is because they didn’t create that goal and work towards it. And that they actually DID create some other goal and work towards it, and that is what they got.

    And I know, in my life, I have not set many goals consciously, but have reached certain places. Which I am not sure is the best way to go about things.

    On the other hand, just setting a goal and going for it might impose a certain amount of rigidity I am unwilling to accept.

    (just saying my side)

  • Mike

    If a person sets a low goal that is not success that is a copout

  • Admin

  • Yeah, there is another speech. It says everyone has the responsibility to be successful, and that means setting goals that are high enough.

  • Mike

    Everybody sets goals even if they don’t realize it it depends on how the mind works to how high the goal is

  • Admin

    Right so the question becomes a degree of how consciously (or perhaps even conscientiously) the goal is created/maintained.

  • Mike

    Very true

  • Admin

    I am thinking I need to test it.

  • Mike

    How would you do that

  • Admin

    Because a lot of my life and work has been about survival. And after one attains that goal things kind of just take their course….which is natural.

    But is most likely where things can break up and time gets wasted. As a new goal was never set.

    So the momentum of reaching survival can only propel one so far…sometimes all the rest of the life, sometimes not.

  • Mike

    But that could be considered being successful survival

    Admin

  • It is definitely successful! I am not questioning that.

    I am questioning only this part:

    “Right so the question becomes a degree of how consciously (or perhaps even conscientiously) the goal is created/maintained.”

  • Mike

    What are you looking for as a true meaning of success maybe there isn’t one

    Success is different to different people

  • Admin

    Well by the definition success means to achieve a certain goal. And we spoke of one achieving what they set out for. So of course it is very specific, and personal. My only question is about the maintenance and development of new targets after one reaches the I’m Surviving stage, which seems to be common among men!

  • Admin

    And whether or not there is actually non-success at all.

  • Mike

    You can never stop once you achieve your goals you must always maintain and move forward

  • Admin

    At what degree of consciousness?

    I mean do you have a chat with yourself every 5 years and do the goal thing, once a year (new years resolutions) or is it a constant evaluating and resetting and is it written down (any better ?) or just something you ponder in a fleeting moment?!

    And are milestones defined!?

    Or is it one stream of action and every once in a while you see you have reached a “milestone” and decide to celebrate that!!

  • Admin

    We’re kind of getting to the end of the discussion, right? If you think about something to add, please let me know.

     

  • Mike

    It isn’t a pondering area with me once I hit the goal I am achieving I look for what comes after that

    Admin

    Ok, nice chat, thanks!

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